Converting Johnson/Evinrude
9.9 hp to 15 hp
1974-1992 Outboards |
|
|
Converting an OMC 9.9 to 15 HP : This
question seems to pop up quite frequently and can get controversial from those
who have never been associated with the conversion and are only going from what
they have heard. As you can see from this information, it is
possible. The main ingredient is a bigger throat carburetor, which are not
currently factory available, and used ones are expensive, if even available,
(often over $200), then you can probably expect to rebuild it.
Some will tell you that you
will also need different reed valves and reed valve stops. NOT SO.
I bought a 9.9 new in 1978 and still used it until I sold it in
2008.
It is the basis initially for writing this article, as I was trying to convert
it to 15 hp, and in those days (45
years ago), there was no, or RELIABLE information available. I had also bought the repair and parts manuals at the same time
I purchased this motor.
From this parts manual, I can assure you that the reed valves for either engine
are the same for either motor of that year. However in 1979 a .0125"
shim was introduced that was placed between the leaf valve stop plate and the
leaf valve itself for the 15hp motors only, apparently to allow them to breathe
better at the higher RPMs it achieves.
The other main
ingredient to convert is a round (tuned exhaust) shown below.
The Real Difference Between
the 9.9 & 15hp :
When they designed this series of motors, they designed it as a 15 hp and then
detuned it with a different carburetor for the 9.9.
When the 9.9hp and 15hp came into being in 1974 and up thru 1978, the
only real difference between the two motors was the carburetor. In 1979 they
added a shim, part #325038, (one for each
cylinder), behind the leaf valves and under the stop plate for the 15 hp,
apparently to allow leaf valves to open up more at higher RPM, giving the motor
more fuel in the air mixture.
The owners manual indicates that the operating range RPM for the 9.9 to be
4500 - 5500 where for the 15hp it is 5500 - 6500 RPM. So where the
15hp gets it's power over the 9.9 is that the carburetor allows more fuel/air to
increase the RPM by 1,000 which equal the extra power.
Carburetors :
In
the LH bottom photo, you will note that the cam roller pivot arm is white
plastic and with an adjustment screw. This would have been a later unit in
that series because the early arms were made of steel with no adjustment.
Some of these carburetors are missing the throttle cam roller and arm unit.
You will note the far
right carb is does not have a choke arm.
These carbs are different than the pre 93s and will not interchange.
|
Carburetor, 1974 to 1979 |
Carburetor, 1980 to early 1987 plastic fuel bowl |
Late 1987 to 1992 with |
1993 to 2004 |
RH VIEW |
![]() |
|
|
|
LH VIEW |
|
|
Carburetor :
Do
not think that you can up the horsepower by simply modifying a existing 9.9hp
carburetor by replacing the main jet with a 15hp main jet.
All you accomplish is that the engine is being
fed too much fuel and not
enough air to properly mix with it, the engine will then blubber (floods out) at
the top end. It can run OK on
the lower end or idle OK because it is using the idle jet then, but it will have
less top end power than it had with the original 9.9hp main-jet. Believe
me, as I have been there/done that. Matter of fact that is what years ago
got me into writing the original of this article so I could document and
provide something for me to remember (I get forgetful), as I could not readily find any factual information on the
subject, only speculation. To reiterate the above, a 15 hp main jet
can be installed in a standard 9.9hp carburetor BUT THE REASULTS WILL BE
MISERABLE.
Carburetor, Early Metal :
Early
production motors had all metal carburetors including the fuel float bowl. Then
from about 1980 to late 1987 the same basic carburetor as previously was used,
but had a black plastic bottom fuel bowl. This plastic seemed to be an
improvement in that if water had entered in the system and got trapped in the
bowel, then sat for a while creating RUST inside the carburetor, even enough
rust on the outside if used near saltwater to corrode holes in it. If you
have to replace the metal bowel the cost was $24.00 as of 2005. I
have however seen metal fuel bowls on 1982 to 1987 carburetors, however I am not
sure if the carburetor was ever changed or just the bowl. Or there may
have been a supply of metal bowls on hand on the dealer's shelves if the
plastics had gotten cracked?
The older floats are made of varnished cork which can get deteriorated over
time, especially now with the Ethanol fuel, and may not function properly, if so
replace it with the newer black plastic type.
If the float bowl gasket on the carburetor is black, it is the older composition
cork material used for bowl gaskets, the float will usually be cork also, then
you are probably way overdue for a overhaul. There could be pieces of this
cork gasket floating around inside the bowl, occasionally plugging the main jet.
The float should be OK unless the varnish has deteriorated.
On the early carburetors which used all steel float needles, the little float
needle valve clips did not exist then. They have become necessary because
the modern soft tip needles can stick shut.
You may see float needles used a nylon tapered tip for the actual shut off seal
even on the early production 1974 but these may be replaced parts over the
lifetime of the motor.
When ordering carburetor repair kits for these older carburetors, you will find a small white Nylon funnel that is actually a needle bearing. Somewhere along the line early on, the carburetor was apparently redesigned internally to better support the needle. So your carburetor may or may not use it, in any case you can not see inside well enough to tell if one is there or not, and if one is, how do you easily remove it without damaging the metal carburetor, so I simply do not use it. And it is not shown in the illustration below as #21 is the outer rubber needle thread seal.
These older metal topped pre 87 carburetors idle jet needle is 2.500" Over All
Length, as compared to the later plastic topped needles as shown below in that
section. The body of these needles were made of brass while the tapered needle
itself is made of Stainless Steel. The straight (front) steel section is .092"
diameter and is .300" long. The tapered needle part begins at the rear edge of
the straight part but is .063" diameter, tapering a distance of .240" farther
back to it's terminal end of .028" with the end being flat. Overall length of
this steel section is .530". The overall diameter of the brass threads are .250"
with a thread pitch of 28 TPI, with the smaller brass diameter of .156" to where
the stainless steel is permanently inserted.
Carburetor, Late :
Late
1987 and newer production carburetors up thru 1992 were completely different
(but compatible) having the bottom fuel bowl and top made of heavy black plastic
type material. The choke lever is the same in these newer carburetors even
though the motors used the cable twist grip which utilized a totally different
throttle system.
They were apparently designed for easier manufacture as the plastic top has the
idle jet in it along with the juncture between this top and the main body serves
as a passage (depending on the the gasket) for the fuel from one chamber to the
other. These carburetors were a great improvement over the previous
metal topped carbs, being a lot easier to work on.
The choke
butterfly is the same as the previous models, but the throttle plate is smaller.
The
internal
throat of the 9.9hp is about .500 dia. while
the outlet hole into the manifold is
.750
dia. (don’t confuse these).
If you see a carburetor advertised on e-Bay that does not have the above RH side
choke lever, but only a shaft protruding with a roll pin installed, it will be
for a 1993 or later motor, as the choke lever is totally different for these
later series motors.
There then was another twist that you may encounter, that is a remote controlled
motor that has a electric choke. On these there is a small solenoid with a
wire running up to the choke lever on the carburetor for activation when you
push the remote choke button.
It is my experience however that the 15 hp does not idle down
quite as slow or as
smooth as the 9.9 hp does. It should not really make that much difference
as at an idle they use a different idle jet than the main jet, except that the
15 has a larger throat size and apparently needs slightly more fuel even at an
idle (trolling speed). Maybe this is just me, and need to do more
research. So if you intend to troll for trout at a SLOW
speed, you may want to stay with the 9.9 carburetor, however if you want it for
a backup motor and salmon troller (which usually requires a slightly higher
troll speed) then consider the 15 hp. The change to aftermarket Boyeson
reed valves may help in this situation however.
The outside visual dimensions of both carburetors appear the same, unless you
look INSIDE the throat from the front. If you look in from the rear, you
will have to position the throttle plate to a horizontal position to be able to
see the throat very well. The 9.9 hp carburetor’s INTERNAL THROAT is
.625 dia., 15 hp internal throat is .875 dia. up until late 1987 when they went
to a plastic topped carburetor.
NOTE this is not measured from either the from or back but the internal
throat that you can see on the LH photo below.
The outlet or rear throat dia. is the same on both (.994") to match the
manifold port dia. The idle
jet venturi system is also slightly different between the two. The part
number for the the pre 1987 9.9 hp Carburetor Assembly is
#388936, while the 15 hp Carburetor Assembly is
#338273. This increased throat
dia. and larger main jet allowed it to breathe better and to pull more fuel in,
increasing the RPM about 1000 RPM, hence more HP.
For those of you who think you are a good machinist and can bore out the throat
of a 9.9 to make it a 15hp, well NOT REALLY. The throats are made
different, you may be able to take MAYBE ¼ of the needed diameter, but would you
get any noticeable gain? Then the mainjet tube from the float chamber up
thru the center of the throat and into the upper section is different on the 15.
And I have NEVER been able to remove these tubes without ruining them (or
getting so close to it that I gave up), so without being able to do that, you
could not bore it out. Try it if you want and let me know how it
comes out, but be prepared to buy another carburetor as your backup plan.
9.9 on left & 15 hp on right as viewed from front, & with choke
open, notice the internal throat size differences |
9.9 on right & 15 hp on left as viewed from rear, but with throttle
plate closed & you can not tell any difference |
|
|
The photos below show the differences in the carb throats.
In the RH photo, looking in from the front behind the
choke, the light blue is the throat size for the 9.9 hp, while the dark blue
represents the 15 hp carburetor, represented by this CAD drawing of pre 87
carbs. The one on the right was snatched off the OMC 9.9/15hp group board
on the internet. Considerably more air flow. In redneck
terms, the 9.9hp will be about the size of a nickle, while the 15hp will be
closer to quarter.
Here are the differences,
CAD drawing of a pre 87 carb. |
Here, a close up view showing the difference in the throat diameter |
|
|
A problem in buying a used carburetor is that the part number may be hard to
read as it is only stenciled on.
And many people, even marine
mechanics, do not see enough of these to be really sure which is which unless
they see them side by side. The reason for this is that when these
motors were sold new, say in 1978, the 9.9 went for $647.75, while the 15hp was
about another $150. Needless to say way more 9.9's were sold than
the 15's by possibly 80%, therefore considerably less used 15's parts are
available.
FYI, here are the specs on the carburetor mainjet/orifice = 9.9hp Part Number
321742 - ID Number 40 - Orifice Size 0.040 inches - 5/16-24 thread size, 15hp
Part Number 322293 - ID Number 54 - Orifice Size 0.054 inches - 5/16-24 thread
size. Either one will screw into the other body, but will not function
unless the throat size is correct for the HP. AGAIN BEEN THERE - DONE THAT early
on in my learning experience.
If you do decide to up you HP by changing to a 15hp carburetor, it might be best
to try to stay in as close a year range as possible because there were changes
in the carb arm cam roller diameter. As the replacement carburetor you get
may have a different size roller, you will have to "link and sync" the carb
roller to the timing plate, otherwise you may not achieve the high end
performance that you anticipated. Or swap the carburetor roller arm
assembly off your 9.9 to the 15hp carburetor.
I have not truly tested a before /after on the same boat, same water conditions.
But from information of those that have, the consensus is that it may not be
worth the price or effort to change the exhaust tube when upgrading on the older
motors, if trying to up the hp to the full blown 15hp, UNLESS you can find a
used 15 hp tuned exhaust tube. Remember that the older (pre 1981) motors
still used the same 9.9hp square exhaust housing on both motors.
I have compared the early 9.9hp exhaust tube with the later and 15hp tube.
The mounting flange where it bolts to the powerhead is slightly different, but
it appears that the tuned (round) 15hp can be installed and would fit. But
just by changing the housing itself, you will not show many benefits.
Tuned exhausts are well known in racing two stroke motorcycles and are very
effective at specific RPMs but they need to be matched to the carburetor also.
Also if your boat is too large, heavy, or you and your fishing buddy plus gear
are overloading the boat, your conversion benefits will most likely not show. However if
you have a lighter boat and it just needs a nudge to get it onto a plane, then
possibly going to the 15hp would help. HOWEVER loading the boat
(repositioning your fuel tank and battery farther forward) or re-proping, may be just as
important, along with possibly adding trim fins on the motor’s anti-cavitation
plate to gain you that extra bit of jumping it up onto a plane. Once it is
on a plane, any extra speed will be minimal and only proportional to the RPM
increase that they say the 15hp has.
I will not go into exact part numbers for this conversion, as
depending on your year of motor, a simple conversion (to factory 15hp AT THAT
TIME) could mean just a carb on say a 1977. But if you wanted to wring
every last bit out of it, you could also change the exhaust tube (3 types), reed
valve stop shims and possibly the prop. Then if you had a 1990
9.9hp which is basically a detuned 15hp,
then just a carb may do it for you.
In changing carbs, the older metal topped carb was used from 1974
until early 1987 when the plastic topped carbs came into being. If I
was going to attempt this conversion, I would try to stay within the same range
of carbs. HOWEVER it would be entirely possible to use an older metal
topped carb (more availability, and more trouble free) on the later motors
(87-92).
The larger throated carburetor will gain the most in increased RPM, (about 1000
RPM more, according to OMC) which in this case also relates to more horsepower.
If you insist on squeezing that last ounce of energy, then maybe the aftermarket
reed valves, polishing and deburring the intake manifold, replacing the exhaust
housing will be of some benefit. But, if
you are trying to push it this far, at wide open throttle for an extended period
of time, my thoughts are that then the rest of the engine may not stand up for
long, so you might just consider going to a larger motor, say a 20hp.
Props are listed the same for both the 9.9hp and 15hp motors, however depending
on the weight of your boat, it may be advantageous to try a lesser pitch
version.
The 1991 OMC parts manual lists the following aluminum 3 blade props --
9" X 10", 9"X 11", 9 1/4" X 8", 9 1/2" X 10", 10"
X 5", 10" X 7", & a stainless in 9 3/8" x 9".
The most common prop would be the 9" X 10", which would probably be fine
for say a lightweight aluminum14’ or 16’ boat, with it be minimally loaded.
For a heavier boat a larger diameter, and lessor pitched prop could help.
Also, as mentioned, the inner round exhaust tube was added after about 1981 for
the 15hp motors. This exhaust tube on the 15hp has a circular
cross-section and gets wider at the bottom, (like a long tapered funnel) called
a TUNED EXHAUST as opposed to the narrow, rectangular shape on the 9.9hp.
This was probably copied somewhat off the tuned 2 stroke racing motorcycle
exhausts of that era. Part of the principle was that the burned
gasses also carried noise waves from the motor, if these waves created a
backpressure where the actual exhaust gasses put noise pressure at the intake
ports at the programmed RPM to block fuel leakage at the same time having a more
efficient exhaust so it could escape more easily. When a motor breathes
better, this equals more horsepower. This is a rather complicated system
using sound waves.
Then in about 1987 another exhaust tube was brought out, this one is a short
rounded unit and is used for both the 9.9hp and the 15hp motors. My
reasoning for the 87 date is that the 86 parts list still shows the old
housings, where the 1990 list has the newer one. However I have a 1989
that has the longer tube. This motor underwent many changes in 1987 as to
thermostat location, fuel pump, twist grip throttle, etc. where they actually
produced a full 15hp but they detuned it for the 9.9hp, as compared to the other
way around up to then.
On the later motors from late 1987 on thru the 1992 versions, when
they changed carburetors, the inner exhaust tube is quite a bit shorter than the
early ones and this same part is identical for both the 9.9hp and the 15hp
versions. Why, I am not sure at this point in time, unless it simply saves
money on parts inventory and they found they gained enough by the other minor
changes.
So, In Summary of Converting to 15 HP : If
I have overloaded you with information on the differences between the 9.9 and
15hp, sorry. I guess it is just how far you want to go in changing
parts to do a partial or a total conversion. Any changes will probably
make a difference, (whether measurable to us commoners or not) but to do the
full blown conversion, ALL will need to be utilized. However depending on
the year of motor you have and your needs, a full blown total conversion may not
be cost effective. In this day and age, 40 some years later, it may be best to
try to find a non-running 15hp made after 1987 and purchase it for parts.
However you need to realize that 15hp motors in this series were not
anywhere near as plentiful as the cheaper 9.9hp (at that time).
I have not listed part
nomenclature and number for each change that they did over the 18 years of
production of this series because of the various changes and some could have
been superseded by other changes. If you are that interested you will have
to go back and re-read what I have posted here, maybe many times. And then
finding the correct part may be another issue. I personally would have to
really think a pretty about doing it to say a 1974 -1976 motor, whereas if it was a 1988
+, that may be a more worthwhile project.
A reader recently made the conversion on a 1976 9.9hp Johnson using the
carburetor off a 1980 15hp Evinrude. "The carburetor change upgrade
results were fantastic. 21 mph GPS top speed with 9.9hp went to
27mph with the 15hp conversion on the same boat".
The reed valve shim and
the 15hp exhaust will add a bit, but are not necessary to make a marked
improvement to an old 15. Do not get confused with people
saying the intakes are different, or the head is different or the ignition is
different ......... THEY ARE NOT. 90% is all CARB".
Another testimony taken from the i-Boats forum, "I had a 9.9 Johnson 2 stroke on
a 16' Grumman V hull, it would start to get on plane but that's about it, it
needed just a bit more power. This was in a bare 4 bench seat hull with
two 250 lb men aboard and a full 6 gallon tank. I eventually converted it to a 15hp by changing the carburetor and
exhaust tube, that did the trick but, it still only did about 18 mph".
So take your pick. What they are not being
informative about is the boat (the hull design could be critical) and how much
gear they have aboard.
Change in HP Ratings : The
Japanese imports were rated at HP at the prop, while the US motors were rated at
the crankshaft, which related to about 10-12% loss in the official power.
This created comparison issues for the US manufacturers. In 1981 the marine
industry started to move from powerhead rating, to a prop rating. OMC did
this in 1984 with the industry moving this direction in1985 was the first year
all outboards had to meet the new prop-shaft specs. OMC saw this
coming and as explained below, phased theirs in over a few years.
Apparently the 9.9s were close to meeting this requirement, but not the 15s, as
the 9.9s were actually a detuned 15. And as explained below, OMC finally
just added all the improvements to both motors apparently as a matter of
simplifying production.
In 1981 there was a change made in the inner exhaust tubes for the
15 hp OMCs only. It was a sort of tuned round exhaust housing, allowing
the engine to again breathe better at high RPM, which in addition to the
larger throated carburetor, and the leaf valve shim gained about another 10%
in overall HP to put these OMC engines on par with the competitive Japanese
imports. The 9.9 hp square inner exhaust housing with no shim for the leaf
valve, stayed the same as it was. A guess here is that they needed to use
up the older parts and at the same time have a noticeable difference between the
two HP motors. The big difference in the performance between the tuned
exhaust 9.9 and 15 hp will be in the last 1/3 of the throttle range where the
increased fuel/air flow of the carburetor will be readily apparent with the
increase in RPM.
In the photos below, the early 9.9 hp exhaust tube are on the left, with the
round tuned 15 hp on the right. The copper tube on the tuned one is so the
engine will disperse the exhaust water more down than as compared to the older
74-76 motors that needed the water exhausting higher to be able to exit the
blubber hole before the overboard water indicator (pee hole) was used.
RH side view of 9.9 & 15 hp exhaust tubes |
Early 9.9 exhaust tubes on left & later 9.9 & 15 hp "tuned" exhaust housings on right, top view |
|
|
Later motors from the factory, at about 1990 the 9.9hp uses the 15hp exhaust
housing. The
guess was economy in using the same parts, and it was better to over rate than
to under rate their motors.
For an explanation of possible water tube grommets deteriorating where they
attach to these exhaust tubes, possibly causing water blockage CLICK
HERE for
a link to my water circulation problems article.
You will note that there were 3 different ONGOING 15 hp modifications. (1)
The 15 hp from 1974 to early 1987, with just the different metal topped
carburetor. (2) The added leaf valve shim in 1979. (3) And the added
tuned exhaust system in 1981, which also included the 2 previous
modifications. The 1979 parts manual lists a shim, part #325038 to
go between the leaf valve and the stop for the 15 hp only. This shim sells
for $2.94 each. It was carried on up into 1992 for the 15 hp, which
apparently allows the 15 hp to breathe a little better. These leaf
valves are the same for all motors they are used on.
Below is shown a full size 15 hp shim that is .0125" thick |
|
To reiterate, when doing a conversion from 9.9 to 15 hp, yes you could just
change the carburetor, and depending on the year of motor you may have, it may
equal what the factory did for that year. But if you want to do the whole
thing using information they developed over the life of these motors, you may
also want to add the reed valve shims AND the later round tuned exhaust that was
developed for the 15hp. Obviously if you are converting a late motor, say
an 1987 to 1992, the reed shims and round exhaust should already be on your motor.
If you are decided to install the aftermarket Boyeson reeds in these motors, you
DO NOT use the 15 hp or later 9.9 spacers because the Boyeson reeds are a dual
reed system with a primary and secondary reed that stack on top of each other.
The primary reed has a hole in the center. And they DO NOT come with
new reed stops for these motors, so you need to use the existing factory ones.
Converting the 1993 - 2007 :
Here,
these later versions would only need to change the carb, (NOTE – THE MOTOR AND
CARB ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the pre-93s) as these are new enough to have
exhaust tubes all the same, (they just detuned a full-fledged 15 to a 9.9) at
the time of manufacture.
Copyright © 2004 - 2025 LeeRoy Wisner All Rights Reserved
Back to the Main Ramblings
Page
Originally stated 03-01--2025, Last Updated 03-22-2025
Contact the author